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This man is a sick individual. He beat his girldfriend on the side of a road and she is 4 months pregnant with his child. The sad part is most of these women eventually take the man back again!!http://gainesvillesun.com/article/20080416/NEWS/804160355/1002/NEWS

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I am so glad that a passer-by took some action on this ...

I read that this morning. I have been that poor girl myself, a long time ago. It is really hard to get out. Like she said, she was telling him that she was going to leave him and that caused the beating.(probably one of many) Hopefully they will keep him in jail long enough for her to get away, and stay away. Unfortunately it happens all too often to people that we wouldn't even imagine!

It is so sad.. Sounds like he might be facing lots of time as a career criminal. I just hope she doesn't convince herself it will be ok and drop charges and go back to him. I have seen many women get out and then go right back.. Love does crazy things I guess! I'm glad you was able to get out of such situation jetermomof2!!

And it's going to be that much harder because they are now connected through the child ...

The good thing is, she won't be able to drop the charges. The state will take it over. Hopefully he will serve lots of time. Just a guess, but I bet she is quite a bit younger than him.
She should take that child and run. That would be the best thing for that child. They will both be better off and consider it a lesson learned. That is what I did. Hopefully she has some friends and/or family to help her.
It is hard, but it is possible. I did it at 18 with a two year old. It took me a little over two years to figure it out. I hope it doesn't take her that long.

Here's another question for a situation like this. If the father is abusive to the mom - should the father be allowed parental rights??? BUT without parental rights - he wouldn't have to pay child support (not that he would or most of the guys who beat their wives, girlfriends or baby mama's WOULD actually pay but the point is...)...

I say - Absolutely no rights to th child - no visitation - no decision making abilities - nothing - BUT - you are still required to pay child support along with the cost for the mom to get counseling. If you can not afford to pay these costs... you will be held in jail and forced to work on a chain gang - doing the high way clean ups, the beach clean ups, picking up dead animals on the road, cleaning up the parks, cleaning the public toilets, cleaning out the gutters in the cities, etc. Why pay someone to do that when we could get it done for free by people who need to work to pay for their children!!!!!

Quote by Hoodmama: "Here's another question for a situation like this. If the father is abusive to the mom - should the father be allowed parental rights???"

IMO, certainly not.

Continuing quote: "BUT without parental rights - he wouldn't have to pay child support (not that he would or most of the guys who beat their wives, girlfriends or baby mama's WOULD actually pay but the point is...)..."

Actually, parental visitation rights and child support are two separate issues to be determined by the court, they don't necessarily go hand in hand. It is the CHILD who has the RIGHT to be supported financially. If a parent's visitation is suspended for whatever length of time, it does not necessarily mean they are off the hook for child support payments. Visitation is just that: time spent between child and parent, and is SUPPOSED to be based on the BEST INTEREST OF THE CHILD, not the wishes of the parent. A child's need for and right to financial support is continuing and ongoing...it does not end because the paying parent is a schmuck who has had visitation suspended. This is why our family court is so grid-locked...one parent gets behind on paying, other parent decides "if you're not going to pay, you're not going to get visitation" Paying parent decides, "if I'm not going to get visitation, I'm not going to pay." Or vice-versa if a parent has to cancel or re-schedule a visitation for whatever reason. The whole thing snowballs and who suffers? The kids, always the kids. BUT, like you said, most schmucks who would beat up a woman are not likely to worry about child support obligations to begin with...sad, vicious cycle....

unfortunately, TripleA, the issue of parental rights vs. support varies from state to state. Florida sees them as two seperate issues.

My brother lives in Virginia. He gave up rights to his first son, against our wishes and for reasons i still do not understand.

in the state of virginia, this released him of any back support owed and all future committments.

But can anyone here honestly say that they think a scum bag like this would pay support even if he still had rights? This girl is in for a long hard road. i hope and pray she finds a good support system.